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A Perfect Slayer · Dec 10, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Bottom line is ppl DO change wether anyone believes it or not

my 0.02$

Divinitys Creature · Dec 10, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

WOW some of you are really into this o.O

Toriyaki · Dec 10, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

^^
Yeah, I know. That's why I skimmed through only two to three pages...
That's why I'm just going to answer with a short post >_>

As a 14-year old (well, couple of weeks ago at least), I think people have a right to be discriminatory when it comes to age on the net, counting that the majority of young teens DO act immaturely in a game0 that's obviously aimed at attracting these group of players.
People have a right to say "lul stupid 13 year old, your a stupid noob," not realizing that it sinks you down to their level...

/end of semi-sarcastic post
Pardon me but I have my own persuasive essays to write o_O

elektra_lucia · Dec 10, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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As is confirmed by science (or was confirmed last time I check) a person's mind absorbs things. So someone who is very strict can have prolonged time to the internet and their mind will absorb the stupidity (or intelligence) on there.
There personality is not quite changed yet, as it's a collection of qualities (description im taking) Exploring the internet someones mind absorbs different things, and since people are different they come to different conclusions and thoughts about this. These thoughts typically evolve (due to law of Attraction I guess) and become qualities. Through many qualities now being created by someones brain, it's possible some are erased.
This new mixture of qualities creates a new personality.

You defeated your own argument.

If your mind absorbs the things you are attracted to and people don't generally be someone they hate then their personality isn't going to change. Example:

Red blob. Goes on the internet, speaks to the red blobs (similar character). Absorbs the red blobs. Stays a red blob.
White blob. Goes on the internet, speaks to the white blobs (similar character). Absorbs the white blobs. Stays a white blob.
Black blob. Goes on the internet, speaks to the black blobs (similar character). Absorbs the black blobs. Stays a black blob.

As for absorbing intelligence or stupidity. That would be nice if it was true then those who had a better education would be more intelligent. This isn't the case though.

I.Q. Tests aren't based around knowledge (Well they shouldn't be

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You Identified Avril Lavigne as someone with a odd body.
That body has nothing to do with her personality however from what you have told us.

Maturity/change.

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Anyways. theres a 75% chance that im rambling (to me since I dont know =P)
so to cut to the chase.

Higher.

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As is confirmed by science (or was confirmed last time I check) a person's mind absorbs things.

Can you show me a link to this. I'm not arguing with it I would just rather read about it first hand.

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Bottom line is ppl DO change wether anyone believes it or not

my 0.02$

Well I wasn't born 6ft4, so yeah I changed. I don't really get your point, lol.

ensoriki · Dec 10, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction
Basically says what you think affects you.

If your on the internet for awhile your going to put a lot of things in your head.
Theres another Law or theory I believe thats more specific, but I can't recall the name.

And Red Blob can also absorb White and Black blob not all of it
but pieces of them.

Also, White contains all the colors (optics) Meaning red blob would inherit a little bit of everything over a period of time from white blob.

The color would still be primarily red.

But he'd become a Pinkish Red blob wouldn't he?

elektra_lucia · Dec 10, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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The Law of Attraction, especially in its less religious contexts, has been criticized for

* Implying the law has a scientific foundation when no such basis exists,[1]
* Not defining its methodology correctly according to denominational New Thought practitioners,

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And Red Blob can also absorb White and Black blob not all of it
but pieces of them.

Also, White contains all the colors (optics) Meaning red blob would inherit a little bit of everything over a period of time from white blob.

The color would still be primarily red.

But he'd become a Pinkish Red blob wouldn't he?

Straw man. Re-read.

Malice Black · Dec 11, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Teenagers in general believe the world owes them something. The whole goth/slash slash crowd makes me want to be transported back to the 60's..free love and weed, what more do you need

ensoriki · Dec 11, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Teenagers in general believe the world owes them something. The whole goth/slash slash crowd makes me want to be transported back to the 60's..free love and weed, what more do you need

I need internet and video games >.>

Trakata · Dec 11, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Teenagers in general believe the world owes them something. The whole goth/slash slash crowd makes me want to be transported back to the 60's..free love and weed, what more do you need

I'd rather not be a stoned-out loser with STDs thanks.

BenO_Under · Dec 11, 2007, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Why hate 14-year-olds?

Because it is easier to.

Splitisoda · Dec 11, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Well, as a 13 year old, I could really see why people hate us. I am in a clan that doesnt play GW (not gonna name) and whenever im on TS they all say i sound like 5 year old trying to sound like a 30 year old person from war. Although theres really no point in yelling N00B when you kill someone else, well, unless they are a 55 necro without protective spirit, but thats beside the point

Really though, everyone can get mad at some point, most of my guildy members were fun kidders, heck we even had a gvg with i think 8 touchers, we didnt need a monk for reasons known

And then they all call us noobs, even though we said were gonna have fun. its the same thing in AB, just Ab is more annoying they like HAHA NOOB I PWN JU GOOD!!!!!!!LMFAO U SUCK!!!!! When they required like 3 ppl

its a team game..er meant to be one...and im willing to play it as a team game.

DreamRunner · Dec 11, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

So let me understand firstly you ask me if I am joking yet I try to explain my thoughts. You tell me you could write a whole page on change, etc. I am supposedly meant to believe this, then you say you will give a little. I presume a little idea as to the insight on change? Only to find out you give none. Followed by saying I don't socialize much. You haven't stuck to the topic at all and you've aimed your post at me. You've made it sound like you have this great knowledge you won't share with us? I am sorry but when you can not stick to the topic other than to say I do not socialize what on Earth is the correct way to take your post?

Anyway, like I said it depends what we call change. Since you're allowed to psycho-analyse me (saying I don't socialize much) I guess I will return the favour. Don't take it the wrong way though, ok? I am going to inform of other things first then get to a psycho-analysis.

In another post of which you made (and aimed it towards my post again) you have made this comment. It is some what interesting because when I talked about experiences and people leading to stubborn views you got the complete wrong end of the stick. When I talked about experiences I didn't really mean children as such. An example I gave was say women who have had relationships with bad men and then think all men are arseholes.

This is almost the reverse of what I was saying.

Many males will want the confidence they might see in a Tom Cruise character in a film. Should I say this is wrong because it is gained by having the appropriate manner? It's still something they want to strive for. I hope when you read this you do not focus on him being a short person and then argue based on his height and intelligence.

Some people don't purposely limit their experience and it doesn't have to lead to stubborn views.
In this thread:
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...27#post3407227 (I enjoy that you target my posts so I will return the favour).

If you look at your post of which you quoted me and also looked at mine again you will see you clearly missed the point I was trying to make. Freedom of speech IS about politics. when people say 'free country' it is relating to politics and not 'free to insult who we wish' or 'free to make any in game name we wish'; regardless, it does not apply to the game (which the topic was about in that thread). A-Net could ban you if you wanted; and as I said in that thread your post was a straw man fallacy. I notice that you seem to get the wrong end of the stick and have straw man in all or nearly all of your posts.

Now for the psycho-analysis:

You often feel the need to bring your posts down to the personal (I have done just that but only in defence I hope you realise). You are one to judge people without really knowing them. You will say I haven't socialized much but probably don't know me very well and probably haven't read too many of my posts. If you have I am kind of worried as to why you target me.

Your writing, explanations and grasp of the world clearly show an underlying ignorance (with stubborn views) in nearly every subject you talk about. You think you know more than you do. You have no clue on how to debate. You can not seem to debate something without the personal being involved. You are the sort to say 'no offence but I think you're an idiot'. Saying 'no offence' does not excuse you from what you have said. It also makes you seem dishonest and gutless. Which brings to the troll argument. You say things in mild doses to get a rise out of someone. People can be addicted to anything. It can be shouting at people, brain impulses/dopamine/serotonin/endorphins can change from that. Some people really hate being angry, but are addicted to it all the same. I think you have a similar strange addiction. Not only in arguments do you target a small point and then argue with it, you do this in real life. Which leads to a kind of unsocial behaviour even though you may have been in many social surroundings. High probability that who you are online is not really how you are in real life.

Don't waste your time trying to argue with this though, I wouldn't trust it anyway. Don't take it the wrong way. I know how to make diamonds with the air, I could write a whole page on it. I'm just going to write a little though.

I never asked what your opinion is of me, I never asked for you to tell me I haven't socialized much. So this post may come equally as wanted or more so in fact.

You could do, but all you can... So you've proved yourself a liar in only one sentence. I'd bet on the fact you were a liar ten years ago.

As for the change, I think I have described myself incorrectly but I was (at first) talking about online people. This thread was aimed at fourteen year olds online I assume? Unless people describe what change they are talking about in people it is hard for me to argue

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P.S. You're completely wrong about me too.

Oh, you've sparked my interests. But no, you're not meant to believe it, and I suppose you should know this, since we are on the internet. Having a debate or an argument is pointless, people would do it just to kill time or because they're bored. If you haven't realized that having a debate on the internet is pointless, then you haven't been here for very long, its the fact that nothing on the internet can be taken seriously and that people won't even remotely change their mindset or even take advice, like yours truly.

As much as you try and be someone on a high horse, you forget the fact that the internet is full of misinformation and a lot of it. Although I never said I have a great amount of knowledge or even implied it, I just gave advice. Any idiot can give it, and its up to you or whomever to take it or not. I said you don't socialize much because of you saying that people don't change can do with mostly with that you haven't met many people at all.

I do find it funny that your little stabs of pointlessness of saying that I am not on-topic and all. But did I touch a sore spot? You can play-mod like however you like, then again it doesn't reinforce your position at all. You think I am doing a psycho-analyse of you, which is strange since you've gone great lengths to try and insult or humiliate me. But whatever, since a little post of insight really pushes your buttons, I guess it make it more the better? A bit defensive, aye?

Whoa, that thread still continued. After my latest post, I forgot all about it. But as long I can say whatever I want, really I can. But if you look closely at my post in that topic, can you see I am pulling your chain or even before how I was trying to get a spark in you? Its called trolling, its everywhere.

"Doesn't mean we are free to insult or do as we wish"

You're wrong. You are really limiting yourself on what you can do and what you want to do. But when people say "free country" they are wrong, if you haven't noticed that the U.S is in huge moralistic society, people cannot be free at all, especially when a lot of people in the U.S are simple group thinking sheep. But since you have so much more knowledge and experience, I guess you would know this.

But give me more hate please, I like it how you really made it out of your way to "prove" that you don't socialize much, and that you really want to insult as much as you can.

I said, no offense because its like putting sugar on it, to make it look better. Also so my post wouldn't get deleted. However, it seems that your insight into me is wrong. Or mostly wrong. Everyone on the internet is different in real-life, how long have you been here to try and figure that out, recently? You might think you know me, but you don't. Instead you debate or argue with people and thinking you're so much better than most people, especially better than me and taking a huge defensive stance to try prove that you don't socialize much. Its quite ironic that you call me having underlying ignorance while you say that people don't change at all, with your great debating skills you forgot to even try to put in some example or anything that reinforces your point, that people don't even change. I guess by your mindset that you like to argue, and that you argue with everyone else without looking into yourself and finding what is wrong. People with huge egos to try and hide your insecurities really do happen.

Without trying to sound like a small child, "don't do this, you can't do that" Maybe you should grow a backbone, it might help you someday. But this thread was about 14 year olds in general and then about maturity. You haven't read the whole thread, yes?

Change is: Turning from an honest person to a liar. Going from a nice personality to a nasty one. These things just don't happen.

Seem pretty general to me, especially when you are trying to direct it towards "online people". Although, I am the type of person that loves criticism more than anything, especially about me, even though you might be wrong about me, I will try and find a way to see if any of your psycho-analysis has any points with me personally. Its mostly because I can build on anything that people give me and find out new things, nevertheless you are the type of person that thinks that people who don't change and I feel sorry for that you're stuck into your own mindset and can't change.

elektra_lucia · Dec 11, 2007, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Oh, you've sparked my interests. But no, you're not meant to believe it, and I suppose you should know this, since we are on the internet. Having a debate or an argument is pointless, people would do it just to kill time or because they're bored.

You're wrong again. You could apply your same illogic to real life though. I also find it quite amusing that you class argument and debate different when really in this context they mean the same thing. For me there is a point, I get to improve my English and typing. I also enjoy it. Just as I would in real life.

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then you haven't been here for very long

Lol.

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its the fact that nothing on the internet can be taken seriously and that people won't even remotely change their mindset or even take advice, like yours truly.

I'm quite open minded actually. You aren't though.

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I do find it funny that your little stabs of pointlessness of saying that I am not on-topic and all. But did I touch a sore spot?

Not at all because you are wrong. You couldn't of been more wrong if you tried.

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You can play-mod like however you like, then again it doesn't reinforce your position at all. You think I am doing a psycho-analyse of you

Well you were telling me I don't socialise much in a patronising tone. You clearly were trying to judge me in some form or another.

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which is strange since you've gone great lengths to try and insult or humiliate me.

Oh I'm sorry, do you want to go to the opticians? You clearly could not read where I said, I only did it because you did it. You know, as in defence.

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I do find it funny that your little stabs of pointlessness of saying that I am not on-topic and all. But did I touch a sore spot?

So you touching a sore spot was more important. Wow, you seem like a good person

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I said, no offense because its like putting sugar on it, to make it look better.

You never said no offense, you said this:

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I don't want you to take this the wrong way but I don't think you socialize much at all.

Which wasn't trying to sugar coat anything, it was being gutless because you didn't want to out right offend; in addition, considering the topic had nothing to do with this your statement came completely unwanted. Just like most of your posts aimed towards me in other threads.

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However, it seems that your insight into me is wrong. Or mostly wrong. Everyone on the internet is different in real-life, how long have you been here to try and figure that out, recently?

Not as long as you have been trying to judge me, obviously.

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You might think you know me, but you don't. Instead you debate or argue with people and thinking you're so much better than most people, especially better than me and taking a huge defensive stance to try prove that you don't socialize much.

This statement is too illogical and incorrect to even attempt to argue with.

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I am the type of person that loves criticism more than anything, especially about me, even though you might be wrong about me,

Anyone can see you're a:
Liar
Hypocrite
Immature
Ignorant on most things you speak of.
Gutless.

It isn't a case of judging you, you do it all the same. You start off by saying how there is no point in arguing then you go do it yourself. You say 'you could write a whole page, but all I can say'. If all you can say, was one sentence, then how come you wrote more.

Again your whole post is at me, you've taken this defensive stance to try prove me wrong which has done nothing but prove you have obsessive compulsive disorder, compelling you to argue which again is hypocritical.

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nevertheless you are the type of person that thinks that people who don't change and I feel sorry for that you're stuck into your own mindset and can't change.

Still without actually giving any examples

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There maybe no point in debating with you due to the obvious but there is a point in arguing with others. Please stop replying to me. Go get some help.

Stalker Haras · Dec 11, 2007, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Alright, this is starting to just turn into a flame fest. I'm locking this for now. I'll let an Admin decide whether this should be re-opened or not.

NO. i think it has played out. JU